How Big Was Katrina's Storm Surge--an Estimate

This is another report from Steve Elliott, my son, who with other Birmingham firemen are doing search, cleanup and recovery work in and around Gulfport on the Mississippi Coast.

We all know that in most hurricanes (not all) that the storm surge causes more damage than the wind. Officially, the final word on the storm surge will be after the NWS finishes an exhaustive study of Katrina. That will take some time.

But we have seen several indications that the surge was huge and greater than Hurricane Camille in 1969. The max storm surge in Camille was 24.7 feet at Pass Christian, Mississippi. Surprisingly the huge surge dropped off substantially to the east with only about a 7-foot surge in the west part of Mobile and 6 feet at Gulf Shores. Here are some of the things the Birmingham crew did the last two days:

* Went down a dead-end street about 1/4 to 1/2 mile north of U.S. 90 and they were shocked to find a barge about 100 yards long by 25 yards wide at the end of the street. They found two other barges in the same general area. For the barge to get that far inland, it had to come over some still-standing telephone poles without apparently hitting them. This would suggest a storm surge of 30 feet or more? Believed to be fulled loaded with grain.

* In the same area a massive amount of lumber was inland...so much so that it covered a wide area and was as much as 12 to 20 feet deep. It included bundled lumber and plywood. Atop the lumber was an overturned 18 wheeler. A bunch of rear-wheels from 18-wheelers were piled up in one area. A person was buried deep into the lumber. They used power saws to cut away the lumber but after getting close they found that the body was entangled in a bunch of steel. So they used other tools to cut through and placed the body in a body bag. Adjacent to that area, they found two more deceased in an automobile.

* Three people missing from a two-story apartment next to the automobile.

* On second night there, about half of the Birmingham crew of 27 or 28 slept in the Gulfport Fire Station where cots had been brought in. The rest on the lawn of the court house on cots.

* Saturday afternoon, three bodies found under a concrete slab.

* The Birmingham group was asked to clear every-other-street early so it would act as a fire break. There is so much piled high debris in the area that the cleared streets would provide access in case fire breaks out..

* On the east side of Gulfport, as far inland as the railroad (about 1/2 mile) In that area, they decided to work their way down a street that angled to the right. They found a man and his wife with two kids wandering down the road. They had rode out the huirricane. Steve asked them why they did not evacuate. He said his home was at an elevation of 24 feet and he thought they would be safe. However, the water reached the ceiling of the first floor. They survived on the second floor.

* Nearby a couple tried to ride out the storm in an old, old mansion. They had survived Camille ok. But at the height of Katrina, a house across the street literally "blew up" and came across the street and destroyed the home next door to their mansion. They decided to get out in neck-deep water and struggled to the nearby railroad. They clutched the side of a boxcar, pulled themselves up and rode out the rest of the storm there.

* So many cars were destroyed and piled up that they looked like matchbox cars.

* Gulfport has a large VA Hospital complex. In front, the storm surge dug out a 300-foot section of a watermain and it lies twisted up out of the ground.

* Coast Guard talked to them and said three bodies had washed ashore. They have seen at least 100 bodies floating near shore. (Don't know if that is just in the Gulfport area, or overall.)

* There is a fuel facility inland on U.S. 49 specifically for emergency and rescue vehicles. Going to that yesterday, they noted one service station had nearly 200 cars lined up to buy gas. Some were outside their autos, pushing them along as the line shortened to save gas.

* Pass Christian nearly totally destroyed.

More later...
Posted by  
on September 3, 2005, 8:31 pm
JB,
Thanks for these updates. You are bringing us the specific information the news media does not.
Albeit, some of it is morbid - nonetheless, it just moreso puts into reality the whole picture of this tragedy.

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Posted by  
on September 3, 2005, 9:07 pm
Thanks, Dave. Steve iis a veteran fireman so he has seen it all, fatalities in wrecks, fires, stabbings, shootings.

But he told me that some of what he saw on the coast really "got to him"

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Posted by  
on September 3, 2005, 9:11 pm
Well, well, I just saw Steve and a number of the Birmingham guys on NBC-13. They ran into a unit from Alabaster also, and Hoover has a bunch of firemen there.

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on September 3, 2005, 9:06 pm
Is there a chance in the coming months ahead after NWS /NHC have had time to see the damage and research everything that they would rule it as a Cat. 5 or were the winds just right on the line at 4 when it hit?..

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on September 3, 2005, 9:11 pm
Do you know if they have an estimate on when the phones will be working in Gulfport? I have a friend that evacuated there from N.O. and I've not been able to reach her or any of her family there. I've found places they can stay here, but I just need to find out where she and her family are.

Thanks so much for the posts. I'm very sorry your son is having to experience these things. I can only imagine the horror. His work is very appreciated.



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Posted by  
on September 3, 2005, 9:18 pm
Replying to Robyn and Phil...wish I could give you an answer about phone service in Gulfport but I have no idea. A lot will have to be rebuilt from scratch. All of my communication has been via cell phone and that has been erratic.

Phil...I suppose it is possible. That is what heppened with Hurricane Andrew years later when the NHC upgraded him from 4 to 5. It is a little difficult because storm surge causes so much of the damage.

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on September 3, 2005, 9:26 pm
Thanks, JB. It's been awful not knowing how they are. She went to her parents, since they "survived Camille in their house." How many times have we heard that same thing now?

I know your son has seen a lot of bad stuff before, but not on this scale. How long will they be there? Are they safe or is looting a problem for them there?

Thanks again for the posts---especially before and during the storm. We feel blessed to have such good weather coverage and such a good emergency preparedness system in this state.

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on September 3, 2005, 9:39 pm
Robin...
Thanks much. I sure hope you locate your friend soon. As far as I know, looting in Gulfport has not been a widespread problem...at least when compared to New Orleans. Many of the Birmingham group are sleeping on cots inside the Gulfport fire station, the rest on the lawn of the court house.

I would be afraid of gators and snakes. They found a dead alligator in the foyer of the heavily damaged First Presbyperian Church. That would have made me want to flee hundreds of miles inland!

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Posted by  
on September 3, 2005, 9:44 pm
Alligator! I think the worst part of not knowing about Janet is that I read and see and imagine all this stuff is happening to her. I guess tonight I'll worry that she and her dogs are having to fight off alligators!

I'll keep good thoughts and prayers that your son is home soon. The job he's doing is so necessary, but so tough.

Thanks.

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