Next Week Looks Very Cold

The Thursday morning map discussion video is on the server:

http://beta.abc3340.com/weather/video.hrb

The big story continues to be cold weather next week. Still looks like the coldest air so far this season, and a chance we reach the teens by the middle of next week, especially Wednesday morning. Nailing details will be hard to do, but cold is the big word.

SHORT TERM: A nice little snow storm is passing north of us this morning... the trailing front will bring scattered clouds and a fresh surge of cool air tonight and tomorrow. The snow cover continues to increase up north, meaning air from the Arctic/Polar region will not modify much by the time it reaches us when the "back door" is open next week.

WEEKEND: Rain will fall on Alabama this weekend. QPF still in the 1/4 to 1/2 inch range here; the most significant rain will probably come on Sunday. A thunderstorm will be possible on Sunday, but severe weather looks very unlikely. Still no sign of a big organized low in the Gulf...

HERE COMES THE COLD: I still think temperatures will on Monday, possibly reaching the 30s by afternoon. Then, on Tuesday highs in the 30s seem likely as the "Gates To The Yukon" will be open. Yeah, the 00Z and the 06Z runs are not as cold for us, but once again I totally distrust MOS products, and the thickness values on the runs. The 12Z run yesterday seemed to hit the nail on the head. Look at these CURRENT temperatures as I write this:

Glennallen, Alaska -27
Havre, Montana -9
Great Falls, Montana -6
Hettinger, North Dakota -6

I looked back on GFS MOS products for some of these nothern cities several days ago, and the GFS MOS was in some cases 20 degrees too warm! It really struggles with extreme variations from climatology in the cold season days in advance.

Back to next week, seems like Wednesday will be the coldest morning with the potential for teens across north Alabama. Snow flurries will be possible Monday night, possibly Tuesday, but once again the chance of any accumulating snow looks really small if we see snow flakes at all. The big story is the cold.

JUST FOR FUN: A storm system will come along in the December 8-10 time frame. The GFS shows thickness values warm enough for all rain. Remember, snow is very rare here in December, so trying to get a snow event this time of the year is hard. But again, the players will be on the field. You have the players, you can get the touchdown.

The 384 hour output of the 06Z GFS does show a nice snowstorm here (December 15), but only fools and strangers forecast storms of the 384 run of the GFS. But it does show what is just a possibility if you get the players on the field.

My friends Josh Johnson (chief meteorologist at WTOK-TV in Meridian, MS) and Brian Peters of our staff are putting together an interesting study on the correlation of snow events in Alabama and the warm and cool phases of the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO). Seems like it snows much more often in December during these "warm" phases of the AMO (and we are in a warm phase now). I will post their findings when complete. But again, even in those warm phases snow events in December just don't happen on a frequent basis.

NOTES: Wow... thanks for all the supporting comments on the post below this one. Didn't mean to throw a pity party, I was just trying to show our level of commitment to the people of east Alabama. I have been getting nasty notes for the last 27 years, that is just part of this business. If you don't have a thick skin this is not a job for you! Thanks for the support... I really do appreciate it. An encourging word goes a long way.

I will be speaking to the Military Officers' Association today at Inverness Country Club... and will be back in the office for the next video and discussion by 3:30 p.m.!
Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 6:30 am
Cold, Cold, Cold!!! All we need is a little moisture...and poof! SNOW. Thanks for all your work James. Be sure to check out the design of the new condo that is about to be built on the site of the Inverness Country Club. They have already begun to "tear" the course up. They are sinking a whole bunch of money into it. Should be a nice golf facility when it is done.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 6:32 am
well, that cold is definately coming...... my knee is really aching today!!



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Posted by Margie Richardson - Rainbow City  
on December 1, 2005, 6:34 am
All that dancing your doing ;). Take a break!! Have a good day guys!!

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 7:26 am
Hey stephanie your knee might be hurting because of the dancing you did HAHAHA, I hope to see later on today.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 8:01 am
Sorry I missed out on last nights posts. Probably too late to add my comments, but Im going to anyway.
Have I ever been angry that a program has been interrupted because of weather coverage... yes, I have, especially when it was something I really wanted to see. Have I written my concerns to James before, yes I have... but this was early in the time of wall-to-wall coverage, long before this was the norm.
Everyone one has the right to their opinion and their choices in life - thats what makes this country great. The people who don't understand the seriousness of the weather have a right to complain, although they have no right to make personal threats.
I believe in the media business that things only change when the ratings indicate they should. James spoke of high ratings during the W-T-W coverage, therefore meaning there are more people who want to see the weather than there are those who do not.
So, unless we all quit watching the W-T-W coverage, I am sure it is here to stay. And while we do have the right to voice our opinions, so do the complainers, lets just not stoop to their level of name calling.

May you all have a great day - regardless of the weather.

GoldwingDave

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 8:08 am
Very well said Goldwing Dave.

It will be interesting to see how the later models pan out. At least one thing is for sure...pull the long johns out!!!

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Posted by New Mike  
on December 1, 2005, 8:24 am
Could this stuff on RADAR be snow or rain? It sure is cold!

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Posted by   www
on December 1, 2005, 8:27 am
ok, I'm little late on my post as well but here's my take..got cable or Sat dish then you've got tons of options if you don't want wall-to-wall! Mostly listen to radio but when I hear it's close I tune in TV..see what info I need, turn it off. Folks it's that easy..don't like TV coverage, don't have other channel options, turn it off..read a book, call a friend..use your imagination. I'm done..ya'll have a great day! It's 8:25 AM and boy has it clouded up quick..wish it was gonna snow!

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 8:36 am
The clouds we see out there are the clouds from the front coming in, but if anything is on radar than I don't think it will reach the ground, and yes it is cold out there a lot of frost. And like I said before servere weather is more imporant than some T.V. show, and goldwing is right as long as the rateings are high than they will keep W-T-W coverage.

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Posted by Cheryl  
on December 1, 2005, 8:40 am
I read this blog everyday and this is the first time that I am putting in a comment. I just read all the comments from yesterday's post. People are amazing to me, I think everyone said it right. The person with the computer under her trailer tops it all. She must not have listened very closely to James give the all clear and was to busy being upset she was missing a TV program.

We have the best weather team in the country right here! We have been blessed with caring men who are trying to protect all citizens of Alabama.

I am ready for snow also, Stephanie, keep doing the snow dance, maybe it will work. God bless....

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 8:49 am
It is amazing how that James can put on the blog people that get upset from missing there T.V. shows. And all the ones on this blog that will back James 100% I know James has to love that. It just to show that there are more of us here on this blog that want to see W-T-W- than some T.V. because abc might run the show again. So as for as I say KEEP THE W-T-W COVERAGE IT MORE IMPORANT.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 8:57 am
Rain this morning falling on very cold ground, I crossed two icy bridges this morning on the way to work just north of Winfield. Slipped and slid across the first one and then knew to slow down when crossing the second one. Any chance of winter weather advisories this am. I think it is all freezing rain--I didn't notice any sleet or snow.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 9:07 am
I read this blog all the time. I don't really know anything about weather forcasting, but it seems like this year's weather (tropical especially) has been very unusual. Maybe that means that our winter weather will be different from the norm too and we might get a December snow. I guess for that matter, ANY snow would be different from the norm. I really want a snow this year so that my 4 year old can see it. The last time there was any kind of snow was when he was a little baby. I strolled him outside to let my 4 yr old at the time play in it and try and make a little snowman. There was only about less than an inch or so. Keep on dancing everyone!


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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 1, 2005, 9:09 am
Hey looking at the radar...That is very intereesting... I believe that over the Tuscaloosa area there could be some sleet falling...

TUSCALOOSA CLOUDY 34degrees 33 dewpoint 96RH NW6 wind 30.13R Pressure... WCI 29....Now these were the tuscaloosa readings at 0800 ... Now with these readings...I believe with some evaperative cooling in the lower levels of the atmosphere... I do believe that it is verry likely that Tuscaloosa is seeing some ice pellets at this time.... James ...Or JB or someone ...Please correct me if I am wrong.....

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 9:10 am
Absolutely, Jamey. I'm in Tuscaloosa and it's raining here now as I type this. Apparently a little more moisture/lift/something than the models thought. But this is definitely measureable rain that has fully wet the pavement...and my truck. Heads up, guys.

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Posted by Matthew  
on December 1, 2005, 9:14 am
Referencing Jared's comments from yesterdays post, anyone want to get a Yahoo Messeneger or AOL IM conference going during the next outbreak?

My understanding is that this is how the "real weather guys" do it with NWS...

I used to have Yahoo Mes, but I can get it again...All we need is to exchange everyone's screen name or e-mail address and when the weather kicks up again, one of us can set up the conference and invite everyone else. Anyone game?

Matthew

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 9:39 am
count me in Matthew. I am on AOL and my screen name is svrstrmlvr (I think..... I use this one very rarely - )


BTW.... it is raining in Alabaster.... too bad it isn't cold enough to turn into snow.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 10:12 am
Steph,
ONE LAST TIME... IT IS SNOWING...ITS JUST MELTED SNOW!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 10:13 am
Goldwing - I just love how you make things all better :-)



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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 12:02 pm
Ok .. It is that time a day again.... 1200 ...Lets take a look at that 12z run...Ill meet all of you back here to review our findings..... Steph...Get to dancing...we need that snow to show back up on the 12 z run....

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 12:04 pm
Hey Rusty please let us know what the 12Z says, I think that Step might be home now.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 12:13 pm
Hey Rusty can you get me the link to the 12Z run???

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Posted by brandon  
on December 1, 2005, 12:15 pm
Nobody is going to win about this I am a huge James Spann fan always has been but I am dissappointed even in the comments he made yesterday. Mainly because the whole point was they did not stay on wall to wall during the whole tornado warning I never said anything about a signature or hook or nothing all I was saying the tornado warning was active for a long time and I and everyone else I have talked to from Clay County only got minimal coverage and that was not fair. I give up on this everybody had a television the eastern side of the state did not get the same coverage that the west got I dont need Span to tell me that I have 2 eyes I watched. I lived in Clay County all my life and all my family lives their I was really offended by his comments about he didnt get one decent thank you from people in Clay County during the tornado warning that happened during that dance show that he caught so much heat about. Me being from Clay County I know their is a large amount of people that dont have internet access and calling Birmingham is long distance for the people of the county. I dont think he should have took that shot at the people from my county. James gets paid alot of money to predict weather it is his job. I dont get thanked for things I do for people a lot of times. I think that was just an unproffessional thing to say because their is a lot of good people in Clay County and that was a smart remark. I have lost alot of respect for James Spann after his comments. Alls he has to do is admit I was not on wall to wall coverage like they were suppose to be. The tornado warning was not cancelled when they went off the air end of story they did not cover it the same as they did other that is the truth he can twist all he wants but facts is facts and they deserved getting some comments about this. When I do not do a job like I promise people call me that is part of having a job no reason to make smart remarks about people he dont know. Sometimes if you cant say something good it best to say nothing at all. I know I am right about this because I was one of the people wondering why they were not covering the tornado warning wall to wall while their was a warning issued. I dont see why anyone would act this way when all the people are saying is we want to watch you for our weather coverage we just want the same coverage as others get this is so childish. Nobody is saying their not good weather men or giving them a hard time I think all 3 of them are excellent at the job they are doing alls I am asking is give this side of the state that same excell

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 12:39 pm
hey rusty -

let me know if i need to keep on snow dancin' .......


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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 12:49 pm
Michael, Here is the link to the 12 run of the GFS:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/mod
el_l.shtml


NOthing all that different on this run... Steph muct not be dancing..enough.. I know she broke those high heels.... But didnt someone state that they could get her some more....

Well here is some other info... take a look at the most recent snow coverage for the U.S and Canada...This is a fairly large coverage area this early....

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SNOW/DATA/cursnow_usa.gif

Well I am loosing faith in the possibility for Stphs kids to get to do any snow angles early next week.... Maybe later next week .. I am trying to find a link to the Earopean Models for next week... The GFS is showing a nice 1004mb low moving through here in the dec 09 -10 time frame, but the gfs is trending toward warmer temperatures... Now the NAO..or AO as James calles is... is still showing a major negative spike...So it will be interesting to see if we do get the thickness values back up... If not..This could be a decent chance... I will find a link for the European models and post that in a bit......

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 12:52 pm
thanks rusty!! guess it is time to get those heels back on huh??? :-)

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Posted by carrie  
on December 1, 2005, 12:54 pm
Brandon, dude: take a breath. Try more periods and paragraph breaks. They're amazing.

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Posted by Brandon  
on December 1, 2005, 1:05 pm
True Carrie, I guess I am being a lazy writer today.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 1:10 pm
Hey Bradon the only reason I fill that James did not give Clay County the coverage as you say is because that storm did not show anything that would keep him on the air. You know as well as I do James will stay on the air to cover a storm, so I think you are unfair to James.

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Posted by  
on December 1, 2005, 2:34 pm
OK ...Now I am really getting deperessed...The snow chances are disapating, and our live shot from the Galleria is fading fast... Now to think that we will not be able to see steph dancing and eating a bowl of the Chilli ...I dont know if I can handle it.... Someone please show me a chart or something to revive my spirits.... Man .. The bloggers...we had a chance to make such an impact on the Bham market with our dance fest and Chilli coockoff ... PLUS to cap off the night..we were going to have the James Suspender Look alike contest.... I was a sure bet on that one.... well maybe not a sure bet...but close enough

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Posted by John T.  
on December 1, 2005, 9:27 pm
James has the rite to vent and tell the facts just like everyone else. How do you know how much he makes? Quite frankly, he probably does'nt get paid enough. I believe he acted professional in how he stated himself. But he has had to do the same with other counties also. If the tornado is gone, be thankful! I agree with that if there is nothing more to show then its time to get off the air. But remember, NO one is perfect. At one time there was a warning for Blount & Jefferson Counties. He had to spend more time with Blount Co. because it showed a better signature than the one in Jefferson, I have a nephew & niece that goes to Hueytown Elem and it was within 2 miles of the school, and this was in Jefferson Co.(woooo), but he had to give priority to the better signature. I understood. It happens. He did not just turn around and stay with Birmingham. I respect him for that.

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