Wet Weekend, Then Cold

The Friday afternoon map discussion video is on the server:

http://beta.abc3340.com/weather/video.hrb

This is quite a forecast... I am getting a little concerned about some freezing rain problems here late next week. More about that later...

WEEKEND RAIN: QPF still spitting out 2-3 inches of rain for north Alabama this weekend. The NAM extraction shows 1.31" for Birmingham. Looks like a good soaking. SPC maintains a slight risk of severe storms tomorrow and Sunday, but I can't really find anyone in our office that is excited about the chance of a big severe weather problem. I do note the NAM moves the CAPE up to 711 tomorrow afternoon, so there could be a few good surface based storms around. But, wind profiles suggest a minimal tornado threat. If we have any severe storms, the main issue would most likely be from hail.

NEXT WEEK'S COLD: The rain should end by midday Monday, and temperatures should begin to drop Monday afternoon. I still think we reach the upper 30s Monday evening after starting off around 50 Monday morning. There could be a new flurries perhaps over north Alabama, but the big story is the change to cold weather.

I still think the GFS MOS is clueless next week... One reason is the cold air moving in here should be quite shallow. We will have to really work hard to reach 40 degrees on Tuesday and Wednesday. Enough clouds should be around to keep us out of the teens, but we will be way down in the 20s during the early morning hours. Coldest so far this season.

WINTER STORM THREAT? I have growing concern over a storm developing in the northern Gulf of Mexico Wednesday night and Thursday. If this were January, I would really be concerned over an ice storm across the deep south. But, this is December, and winter storms are pretty rare this early in the season.

A cold, 1040 mb high should be sitting around Kansas City as a deepening surface low forms in the Gulf. We will have a shallow layer of cold air in place here in Alabama, probably much colder than the models understand. I don't think the air will be deep enough to support snow; if we were to have winter weather problems most likely it would be in the form of freezing rain.

I sure don't have the guts to forecast any ice this far in advance, but just be aware it is not out of the question. For now we will mention a cold rain Thursday and Thursday night, followed by another shot of cold air over that following weekend.

Have a great weekend and spend some good quality time with your family. I will try to make a few posts here tomorrow and Sunday as all of this unfolds. There won't be much boredom in our office for the next seven days for sure...
Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 3:00 pm
I would like to learn more about the climatology of winter storms in North AL. I do remember from what I've studied before that goes along with what James said here. These things are rare until January/Feb.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 3:01 pm
no ice. no. no no no. SNOW. lets all do the anti-ice storm dance!!!!


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Posted by Paul  
on December 2, 2005, 3:16 pm
J.B's Voice sound like the one I grew up listening to on noaa weather radio(befor the deadpan robo voice took over.Is it?I lover to listen to noaa weather radio even as a child,and how old is JB?And what kind of dog is ms Molly?I am 31 and have shared my life with a poodle named Homer since I was 15,Homer still loves to play but has to take an arthritis pill daily or he gets down in his back.I must enjoy the time we still have togeather,but sometimes it is hard to believe the little black fuzzball my mom got me as consolation over my parents difficult divorce is now a silver grey (though still playful and loveble)canine senior citizen with arthritis.

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Posted by Paul  
on December 2, 2005, 3:18 pm
J.B's Voice sounds like the one I grew up listening to on noaa weather radio(befor the deadpan robo voice took over.Is it?I loved to listen to noaa weather radio even as a child,and how old is JB?And what kind of dog is ms Molly?I am 31 and have shared my life with a poodle named Homer since I was 15,Homer still loves to play but has to take an arthritis pill daily or he gets down in his back.I must enjoy the time we still have togeather,but sometimes it is hard to believe the little black fuzzball my mom got me as consolation over my parents difficult divorce is now a silver grey (though still playful and loveble)canine senior citizen with arthritis.

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Posted by Paul  
on December 2, 2005, 3:20 pm
Oh yea James,how do you feel about some of the other stations 50's-30 and 40's-20's forcast for next week?

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Posted by AC  
on December 2, 2005, 3:28 pm
Yikes...hoping that there is a slight warming trend so we don't deal with ice!! How does one anti-ice dance?? If anyone knows, the moves, I will be glad to make an attempt!!

AC

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 3:39 pm
well , as we all know.. dancing will bring nothing but trouble.. I vote that we have a sit in .. No dancing .... Stephanie, you never replied to the question about what you got your hubby... for christmas.....

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Posted by Monica  
on December 2, 2005, 3:40 pm
Well, the Warrior River Boating Association Annual Christmas on the River Parade is tomorrow night. Seems like it will be a dreary, wet. cold one. Stephanie, would you please do a little anti-rain dancing tomorrow from say about 5pm-8pm? For all others that are interested, the parade begins at 5 at the Elks Lodge--I think it's Frankin Ferry Road bridge, and continues to "The Point" before you get to Lock 17. If you are able to attend, the sights are awesome.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 3:43 pm
oh rusty - i didnt see that question! i can't say here, he reads this blog and the cat will be out of the bag if i told ya!! one thing i wish i could get him is the xbox 360. but everyone is sold out and i sure aint gonna pay $800 + for one on ebay!! so if anyone hears of a local place that got a shipment or is getting one.... PLEASE EMAIL me :-)

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 3:44 pm
oh yes, and my knee is begging for a sit in. the approaching cold blast has it in fits and i may have to drag out the old brace again

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 3:46 pm
Hey Rusty I don't think Stephanie want's to say what she got him because he might sneek in and read the blog!! Now Stephanie you need calm the dance down because you might be dancing in a ice storm.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 3:54 pm
I wish I could get the 360....In between work.. School... Daddy to two ... Hubby to Kim, church, and sports, i love playing xbox.. My 7 year old...Dalton... He is a terror on the ncaa 2006...... I would love to get it for him..... But you just cant get them , and the ones you can get , are the stripped down versions...... I will just wait and get one in January...... Michael, you know ..Ice, snow... If i dont have to work then so be it.... Plus I bet I can really buiold up some speed with me and the two boys in a home made bobsled...... I can see it now... The neighbors... Here comes the Pitts bobsled team again ... Hey ..Your only young once... And at 33 I am convinced that I am still 16 .... My wife would agree.. ask her ....

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Posted by Mac  
on December 2, 2005, 4:01 pm
Dangit Stephanie, if you can't get the moves right, get off the dance floor! ;)

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 4:02 pm
Hey Rusty, I remember you prior to you being 16. You were wide open then. Ahhh, the good ole days. And I agree with the sit in. We need to do this until we can figure out the true snow dance!!!

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 4:05 pm
trash can lids make great bobsleds!!



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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 4:25 pm
A good innertube makes a great sleds to now Rusty I thought you sounded like you are young I am a little older than you 36 but I still can have some fun. Hey I bet your wife is younger than you, ok now we need to sit back and find the true snow dance so Stephanie can learn it HAHAHA.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 4:30 pm
I don't mean to be against everybody else, but I'm hoping for anything that gives me a reason to use my 4WD.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 4:37 pm
too funny chris!!! if i had a 4WD i would probably doing the same thing!!

since we are giving ages, i am 33 years old going on 103 at times - i probably wont be on the blog much for a few days, my son came home with a huge project due next week. since he is involved in another project in the works due monday, we may be a little busy.....

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 4:52 pm
Well being as though we are doing homework , I have a paper due on monday ... "Expanding Nation"... " anyone interested ....U.S. History .,.... Not going to be a fun weekend... Plus a parade on sat. night.. Which , I believe will be rained out, well if its not...My son is not going to be in it..... It will break his heart.... But its better than him getting sick..... Ok now it is getting to be too much for me... I am going to start the circulating of pics through the Bloggers association ... So if you are one of the regulars .. I will get one out to you soon of the Pitts Family.....

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Posted by AC  
on December 2, 2005, 5:30 pm
Rusty..just curious...what are you taking US History for..I'm assuming courses under a pre-req....I too am going back to school...for my second career, as if being a mother isn't a full time job in and of itself!! :) As interested as you are in the weather, I wondered if it was meterology!!

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Posted by rob  
on December 2, 2005, 5:30 pm
I am getting so tired about seeing the snow dance. I guess this world is full of bored people.

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Posted by John T.  
on December 2, 2005, 5:49 pm
Hey Rob, get a life, we're having fun. The only one that seems bored is you. Stephanie, you are far from boring. And you still have your since of humor.

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Posted by Susan  
on December 2, 2005, 6:38 pm
Hey, People,
I'd like to say something. And no, I'm not leaving an email address because I don't know how it would go over, and I'm not up to a hatefest.
This group that communicates on this blog seems like a wonderful group of people, and I'm happy they have found each other. I hope they do have a meeting and see each other face to face.
But perhaps it's time to form an email group.
I think this blog was intended to discuss the weather, and it has gotten away from that.
I hope you have a wonderful snow dance, and I do hope we get snow.
I hope I haven't offended anyone too much.
Thanks for letting me speak up.


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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 7:32 pm
wow.. They are comming out in droves.. Let me be the first to thank all of you for posting in this blog..It is not my blog..Its not Stephanies, Michael, dave, chris, John t, or even James' its a public forum, there are many places in which you can go to get the weather. If you spend much time in here at all, you will find that our primary reason for being here is to discuss weather. As far as I know. We primarily look over the GFS models. These models come out 4 times a day. 00 06 12 and 18z model runs, and that leaves a lot of time for discussing other information. As for not leaving an e-mail address, then thats your choice, I am not as politically correct as James is...He wont even respond to those who will not give an email address. I will be the first to tell you that of all the regulars in this room, there is not a one of us that will fill your email box with hate mail.. We dont work that way. SUSAN, im sorry you feel the way you do, and I hope that you would go back and see some of the posts made by those of us who frequesnt this room. James makes two map discussions a day, but if you go back and look, someone is breaking down each run of the GFS as well as other models. We are not Meteorologist, we are just a bunch of ordinary people who enjoy the facinating world of weather. ROB have you ever heard the saying" If you cant beat them , Join them"?? We need an additional dancer... If not , then just read the headlinesw in the blog, and you dont even have to go into the posts. I will leave you with this.. The bloggers here welcome anyone and hope that each and everyone of you find happiness wherever you look. May God Bless everyone of you and, PLease Have a very Merry Christmas. By the way ...In just a bit, I will be breaking down the 18z run of the GFS so stay tuned.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 7:41 pm
Hey Rusty my hats off to buddy I could not have said it better than that, and please let us know what the 18Z runs say. And one thing you might want to think on Susan if James Spann did not want us to talk like this on this Blog than he would take it off. there is nothing here but harmles fun so what this is fun.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 7:47 pm
AC, I have to take these history courses as a pre requisite for my degree in Business Marketing. I am now back into collage at the age of 33 and am really enjoying it. When I graduated from high school (Hewitt Trussville), I entered into the United States Marine Corps, and spent 10 years serving my Country. I went into business Management with an insurance company in the area, and quickly moved into management. I aspired to work for the best insurance company in Alabama, so I applied and was hired only to find out that I had to have a degree to go into management, so here I am. AC to be honest with you, I would love to go into meteorology; I am fascinated by it, as well as any science. I did get to study some basic Met courses in the marines, because believe it or not. The weather can effect the direction of a 95 LB Artillery shell quite a bit. But I believe that I am just too old to start over. You look at the field, and when you first get out of school, you have to move all over taking whatever position you can find…. It’s not like James will give up his position any time soon. Plus he has a couple of back ups in line for his position. John and Jason… I am striving to get more involved with storm spotting and one day hope to do the web map discussions for James. HAHAHA..

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 7:49 pm
I must say that I enjoy the conversations on this blog. In fact, I read it all day while I am supposed to be working! (Don't tell my boss!)

I can't wait for the live shot of the blog party at the Galleria! Stephanie, teach me the snow dance!!! I have plenty of heels if yours are all broken!

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 7:58 pm
18 z run discussion comming up here in a bit..There are a few twists in it..So give me a bit and I will get it put up....

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Posted by AC  
on December 2, 2005, 7:58 pm
Tks for your service Rusty..my husband served, Army Reservist, but did two different tours with this latest War on Terror..

Myself..I was a teacher and am now in nursing school...like I said, not that being a mommy isn't a full time job! I am very interested in the weather, and just get on here for fun...it is all very interesting, and I find that this is the best weather team around.

Hope no one was offended...just neat to get on here and learn a little and laugh a little!

AC

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 8:00 pm
Ain't it grand to be able to write this stuff on the blog and get paid for it! But then again, I like doing it at home for free, too. Sarah, we are having a problem with the snow dance. Stephanie has done a wonderful job coordinating it, but we just can't get it right yet. Any suggestions???

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 8:56 pm
I'm not Sarah but I do have a suggestion for the snow dance. Have you tried moccasins instead of heels? :-)


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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 8:08 pm
wow!! michael just called me to let me know what was going on. typing with one hand, child in other, i just want to say thanks to our supporters - we have a lot of fun here, when weather is slow, we play, but when a threat is near we also get serious quickly. and to SUSAN - as the Christians that i believe that most of us are, is is against our beliefs to leave hate mail. It is also childish and immature.

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Posted by   www
on December 2, 2005, 8:31 pm
I think I know the problem with the snow dance...
y'all ain't got a big penguin like folks in the Adirondaks have.

http://www.melodylodge.com/images/snowdance/pages/SnowDance2.htm

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 8:56 pm
John B ----

I love it!!! :-)

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 8:29 pm
I hope we continue to be able to have a little fun on here while still learning about the weather. It suits me fine to get on here a couple times a day and learn a thing or two. Not to mention the awsome cool people in here, headed up by the most awesome meteorology team in the world!!

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Posted by Susan  
on December 2, 2005, 8:45 pm
To all,
I'm sorry, I truly did not mean to offend. I've seen comments you've made about other people who posted something you disagreed with, and did not want to get involved with that.
As I said earlier, you seem like great people. I have obviously misinterpreted what this is about.
I really meant no harm.
Have fun, and keep dancing. I will enjoy your snow, and thank you for it when it happens.
Susan

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Posted by   www
on December 2, 2005, 8:45 pm
Nobody ever answered the guy's question about the NOAA radio...yes the JB here is one and the same..I remember his voice well also..spent many an hour listening the old days..the70's were pretty busy with tornados, ice and snow!

Ya'll are encouring me to know your never to old to go back to school, I'm 43 with 3 kids and short on money! So I need to go back and get a career! One year at Jeff State, various office jobs, 10 yrs. retail and then part-time various work until 2000, pretty much full-time Mom.

Enjoy reading all the posts.. just for fun I graduated from ole HT in 1980! Now big Cougar fan!

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Posted by John T.  
on December 2, 2005, 8:52 pm
Rusty, you spoke for me! James came up with a great idea in this blog. To me, it teaches, along with having fun and being able to hear from the best meteorologist anywhere. Yes! We have become family thru Mr. Spann with this blog. I also agree that if he did dissagree with our chit chat he would let us know. BUT, just like with ameteur (or ham) radio when it come down to the severe weather we basiclly shut up and let our experts do the talking on here. We just do a little field reporting. And thats how it should be. The "emergency vehicles" --so to speak-- get the priority. And we gladly let them. Not to be rude or mean Susan, but NO! This site is PERFECT for me & my family of weather enthuseist. Thank you.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 8:53 pm
I hate to disagree with you folks but my weird self actually LIKES ice. No idea why...maybe because I have gas heat and stove, but to me Ice storms are fun.

Actually, I guess its because snow MAY keep me out of work...but ice DEFINITELY will :) mwahahahaha :)

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 8:58 pm
18z run of the GFS
Ok here we go again , lets start off with the convective outlook from Norman.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk.html

This is day one convective outline, and you can see that there is a slight risk from about Rome Ga., to Gadsden, Anniston, through Birmingham, all the way back into Arkansas.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day3otlk.html

As we see here, on the day three convective outlook we have a good bit of the same area under a slight risk.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day3prob_1100.gif

As you can see, there is still only about a 15% chance of any severe weather in this area.
But we sure are going to make up some of our rain deficit for the year. Here is a model between now and Tuesday, it is the top left graph and you can see that we are looking at about 1.5 to 3 inches of rain in our viewing area.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_006.shtml


Ok now let’s look at where we are now with the 18 z model run of the GFS. As you can see, we are high and dry for the time being. With a 1004mb low out over the panhandle of Texas, and as we move into Sat, the 18z run is slowing down the progress of the Low out of Texas, which will delay the moisture being brought in here till later in the day.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_024.shtml


By this time tomorrow night, we will see an increase in shower into the area, as the low begins to move over along the Oklahoma, Arkansas boarder. This will start lifting moisture up and out of the Gulf and into our area more during the nighttime hours on Saturday night.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_054.shtml


Here we see the area of low pressure moving across the Tennessee valley bringing more scattered showers and possibly a clap of thunder or two … As high pressure builds in behind it, bringing in the big story, the cold air.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_060.shtml


Sunday morning, we see that low racing off the coast of New England and that stationary boundary set up in place across the Deep South. This will be our greatest chance of Heavy rain and storms, but like James has said, there just is not enough instability in the atmosphere to support any wide spread severe weather.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_066.shtml


During the day on Monday, we see a new 1012mb low forming over the Ga. AL. boarder, and we start to get a little more push of that cold air in here thanks to the high that is building over the Breadbasket of the Country. Monday afternoon and Monday evening, we will se a better chance of any heavy rain over the area.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_072.shtml


As the low moves up the eastern seaboard, there may be a chance of a few snowflakes around here as moisture wraps back around the low Monday evening into Tuesday morning.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_090.shtml


And as we get into the day on Tuesday, we will be very cold, and look at that low up off the coast of New England, I believe it drops down to somewhere around 990mb.
And we get that high setting down right here in the Deep South around The Mississippi Alabama state line.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_108.shtml


http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_114.shtml


Now as we move into Wednesday, we are still going to be very cold and here we go…Here is the moisture building in the gulf.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_150.shtml


and as we move into Thursday night and into Friday , morning, could we still have enough cold air in the lower levels of the atmosphere to support some icing??
We surely do have some ripples moving along the jet stream and that will increase moisture into the area

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0
_156.shtml


and notice that the 540 line is all the way down into the Tennessee Valley area.

It will be interesting to watch and see how it unfolds…However it unfolds ,m, you can bet that we will be having a good time watching it….


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Posted by John T.  
on December 2, 2005, 9:00 pm
Andy, you just might be a little more weird about bad weather than I am. And I'm pretty darn weird. Actually ice is beautiful, just so dangerous.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 9:38 pm
It looks like it will be really cold!!! I don't much care for the ice. There are too many people that get out on the roads and try to drive. That makes my job really difficult. But, I will be here watching and waiting and reading and doing my best to figure out the snow dance!!!

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 9:38 pm
Hey Rusty have you ever thought about becoming a weather man?????? and to Susan that is ok I know that you meant no harm and I am sure the rest of us think the same way.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:07 pm
Michael, It would be a dream come true, but I couldnt so that to my family.. When you first get your degree, you have to move all over and my kids are starting into school and I wouldnt want them to have to move around.. so for now.... Im just sitting back .. Joining the IWIWAM and hoping one day to get to have my own website and do my own map discussion, or just handle James' discussion.. Either one would be fine with me... I knwo james is so busy... with all the other markets he covers.. HAHAHAH ..... Thanks michael.. I enjoy acting like I know what I am doing in here.... And I mean ACTING>>. hahah

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 9:43 pm
Hey I will tell you one thing the weather channel does not show the cold air down here, they show it moving more north and east of us, now I have to wonder how right that is.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:01 pm
I mostly watch the weather channel for the cool music...

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:14 pm
Looks like an Academy award for Rusty! Actually, I enjoy reading his take on things. And I know about that moving around as a child. So, you be the IWIWAM and we will listen...and dance!!!

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:39 pm
we all will dance.... And love every moment ... I am sitting here posting my last post for the night.. I have Preston , my four year old in my lap, about to fall asleep and Dalton my seven year old laying on the sofa in my office... IT is hillarious to listen to there discussions.. Right now they are discussing Dinasours.... They are crazy about them ... Dalton wants to be a Paleontologist when he grows up... They are Debating the ability of a Philosoraptor to eat you ... Out of the mouths of Babes.... I couldnt even imagine being able to say those words at that age.... and dalton knows them all.... Tyrannosaurus rex, Triceratops, Stegosaurus, Ceratosaurus.. He is calling them out to me now... Maybe I am not killing their names.... ANKYLOSAURUS..... and the list goes on.... Well untill we meet again..it is time for some little boys and one big boy to get to bed...

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:41 pm
Dave , thank you for your comments.. Im just copying what i see Master James do...

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:41 pm
Hey guys. I've been reading your blog and it's great. If there's a pow wow for a snow dance, I'll bring the bongos. Rusty, I like reading your breakdowns.

Flurries wrapping around in the cold air on Monday night/Tuesday morning sounds interesting. That will kick in some Christmas spirit. As for the ice, go ahead and get the video camera set up at the bottom of the hill on 31 near Brookwood Hospital and watch the fun begin.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:42 pm
Susan,
You have nothing to apologize about. This is what makes this country fair. You have a right to speak your mind and not to be criticized for it. Stephanie is usually the first to throw stones at people when they disagree, and then comes michael, then John T and anyone else who will follow. I agree with you, this has been addressed before but nobody seems to care. Feel free at anytime to say anything you want in here. You should have that right without being criticized, And stephanie, the only one being childish and immature is you. You always seems to throw the first punch when someone seems to disagree. Also I did leave my email address, but be warned any vulgarity, threats or harrassment will be turned over to the local authorities.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 11:13 pm
Charles,
You are correct. One of the things that makes this country great is the right to speak one's mind. People do indeed have the right to disagree.
That right also extends to Stephanie, Michael, John T, and anyone else who follows. They, too, are free to speak their minds.

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Posted by  
on December 2, 2005, 10:45 pm
Well Night everyone I hope everyone sleeps well, And we will be on the look out for Rusty takes on the weather pattern tomrrow until then night.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 12:32 am
Oh my....a blog entry with 53 (i guess 54 now) replies! ANYWAY....Keep dancing everyone, and please pray for the rain to hold off until after noon on Saturday and to end before 6 on Monday. I am moving those two days....

Matthew

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 6:17 am
Susan
I just got on it it is ok, we know you meant no harm, but just wanted to correct you on the hate mail thing.
And to Charles, I do not throw stones or send hate mail, sorry to disappoint you. I have defended myself against a few rather mean individuals. I am a pretty nice person, I try to be. But I am also known for telling a person like it is as well. thats all.

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Posted by Charles  
on December 3, 2005, 6:21 am
Hate to disappoint you Stephanie, but I have gone back and printed blog entries that you made and you do throw the first stones at anyone that disagrees with anything you all say. I call it like it is to and this one you are wrong on. Have a nice day.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 6:30 am
personal attacks, i disagree on. when someone is ugly towards me, or a regular poster, i strongly feel that is uncalled for. i have never called anyone a name, i have tried to offer advice ( for high gas bills ) I have never disagreed with one's opinion in of itself though - but usually one's negative opinion is backed by an insult towards a fellow poster. Calling someone a moron, telling someone they are stupid is not very nice.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 7:49 am
Hey Charles I agree with Stephanie I have not seen where she is throwing stones, and IF YOU DO HAVE BLOG POST WHERE SHE HAS THAN PUT THEM ON HERE SO WE CAN SEE. Come on man lightn up we are just having a little fun it is true this blog is here to talk weather but as long as the weather is quiet than there is no harm in havning a little fun. And yes Stephanie is very mature person all you have to do is met her and and find out. The only people I see that might be immature is the ones that might want to come and bad mouth us are ones like you that don't see the humor in things. Now I will tell you this keep on like this it is very unfair to come at us like this and I know that when Rusty and John T and Goldwing see this you will get a lot more on this so just hang on.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 8:17 am
Michael,
there is no need to defend me but thanks anyway! I know what I have written in the past, it is in the archives. I do however welcome Charles to pipe in anytime - I would like to get to know him like I am getting to know many others on here. I think there are some misunderstandings or rather misinterpretions ( like susan for instance, i really believe she misunderstood the thing about the hate mail! :-) It is hard to tell when one is writing. Childish - yes i am a big child (at heart - i love playing with my boys and watching kids shows with them!!) immature, no, i was forced to grow up at a very early age when my dad became a single parent to me and my little sister. The point is - everyone is entitled to an opinion - that is what is so wonderful(as goldwing would say!!) about our country. So Charles, how bout it??? Truce?? :-)

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 8:50 am
Hey Stephanie you are right I guess I saw that and got worked up a little so are we still good friends?????

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 8:56 am
absolutely!! hopefully - we can all work out the misunderstandings - I never mean to offend anyone!!!



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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 9:11 am
Hey well you are ok with me I am looking forward to meeting your husband one day. I think me and him will hit it off.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 4:12 pm
Charles, as for throwing stones.. I will tell you this... Each and everyone of us has thrown stones, when we have felt that we need to defend ourselves. The great part about that is.... Gods Grace and blood covers rock throwing. Attacking personally is a different story, and what is it you feel that you have now done.. She was trying to make someone feel at ease about a comment made and then you attack her personally. If you take the time to print out the posts where she has made comments about someone then , well , you are looking for faults in someone... Why must you look for faults in others? Much less, make this comment , and not even leave an email address so that she could discuss it in private?? Its all good, and Just as she may have sone in the past , so you have done now, and I have done it too.. We Now move on and Dance....God Bless You , and get merry, cause Christmas is on its way...

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Posted by Charles  
on December 3, 2005, 6:08 pm
Yes Stephanie.
Truce. But I do have a problem with Rusty and Michael now. You see my point made is true. We all have our faults, God knows I have mine. But hey, let's lighten up on folks when they disagree with us and someone says something that we do not agree with. Let's not slam them or make rude comments about them. We never know what we say about somebody that will just put them over the edge that day. I think everyone (me included) needs to lighten up on people in here when someone disagrees with us. As for the posts Michael, bring them on. It is just proving my point that I was mentioning last night.

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Posted by Susan  
on December 3, 2005, 6:55 pm
I wish I had not checked back on this, but I did. How hard can you beat a dead horse? Let's please let it go.
Charles, thank you so much for your kind response. It made me cry when I thought everyone hated me, and I did not mean it the way it was taken.
Everyone - live, let live, forgive. Let's get over it and go on.
If/when this passes, maybe we can all get into why it happened. There were some valid points I was trying to make. Just did not go about the best way.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 7:45 pm
Awwww Susan -

Nobody hated you - and no, once I went back and read my post, I think Charles may have thought I was calling YOU childish and immature ( WHICH I WASN'T) it was those who sent hate mail to James Spann (the ONLY hate mail I know of that gets sent)

That is why I think sometimes people might misunderstand a writer's post as something that sometimes it isn't. I know I have!!

So- are you going to join our snow dance???? Charles too ?? (seriously we do not do this, but it is fun to pretend!! :-)



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Posted by Charles  
on December 3, 2005, 8:10 pm
No thank you. I am not into snow dancing that much. Can we just agree to disagree. I still disagree with your previous post, but I will leave it at that.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 8:26 pm
Charles -
We agreee to disagree on this, but hopefully not on everything in the future! I meant it when I wanted to call a truce. Have a nice night and stay safe :-)

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 8:37 pm
Charles, what is the problem that you have with me? , I have no issue with you , and I now continue to move forward with enjoying the weather setup for this weekend and next week.. I hope that whatever I have done to offend you , that you can forginve me .. I want everyone in here to enjoy themselves and feel at home.. We are just one big family..I know you dont want me to break out into song.... Help me steph.. "We are family... All my brothers sisters and me..."



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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 11:17 pm
Hey Charles you are right I guess when I saw what you said to Stephanie I got a little upset and since me and her met I think of her as a sister. So I was trying to take up for her just like she would do for me, I have no proplem with you so let's just let it go. I do not hold a gruge with you because that is not what god would want me to do so forgive me if I mad you mad I did not mean to. And Susan I do not hate you never did just like Rusty said we are just one big family in here so let's get the snow dance cranked up HAHAHA. Susan you can dance can't you if not than Stephanie can teach you HAHAHA.

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Posted by  
on December 3, 2005, 11:24 pm
Hey Susan what part of town do you live in?????

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