Quick Mid-Morning Notes

A quick peek at the new 12Z run of the NAM shows a nicely developed surface low in the Gulf of Mexico Thursday evening south of Gulf Shores, with a large precipitation mass over Alabama. This confirms our forecast trend for Thursday.

Of course, the NAM shows the lower atmosphere warm enough for all rain, which might be correct for the I-20 corridor (see the early morning discussion). BUT, the NAM will have no clue about the cold air near the surface. The sounding from Birmingham this morning shows the cold air only about 1,800 feet thick, and there is no way the NAM or the the GFS has the resolution to handle that. Birmingham has now dropped into the 30s; just recently the MOS guidance from both models thought we would be in the 50s today. Forget those MOS numbers in shallow cold air... they stink.

The GFS is out to 54 hours at this moment, and it will probably look like the NAM... finally catching on to the idea of a storm in the Gulf later in the week. And, like the NAM, it won't understand the shallow cold air near the surface.

Bottom line is that at first glance on the 12Z guidance I don't see anything to change the thinking from what is posted below... if this were January, we could be in big trouble. Still, there is a real chance of a wintry mix mainly for areas north of U.S. 278 Thursday, and maybe a small window for some bridge icing as far south as Birmingham early Thursday morning. But, mostly a cold rain around here.

By the way, J.B. Elliott reports seeing the cold air so far this season in the Yukon; he found a -51 this morning (he will have more on these observations here later)... makes you wonder about the latter half of the month.

Headed out for a number of chores... will have a full post by 3:30...
Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 10:08 am
Does anyone know why the siren just went off in Pelham? I'm sitting here working and the siren just ended. This happens on several occasions and it always makes me wonder. It also drives the dog crazy. :-) I just worry people might get used to hearing it and then disregard it when it really matters.

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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 10:16 am
hmmm...... maybe they have a faulty siren. I know Alabaster does testing on the first Wed. of the month. and when they do, all the outside dogs on the street go into a harmonious howl.......... it is hilarious!!

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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 10:34 am
They test them here in Calhoun County on the first Tuesday of every month at 4:00 pm. It should say at the end that it is a test, if it is in fact a test.

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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 10:43 am
Hey angie,
they test those sirens every month.. should be the first monday of the month at about 10:00
thanks
matthew


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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 4:00 pm
Matthew, how is the day going at work??... I am headed to the doctor with Dalton.. He is a sick little man... I hope to be back tomorrow... Tell all the folks there in the CSD I said hey...

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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 10:46 am
Hey Angie Matthew is right they do test them on the first of every month.

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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 10:56 am
I have a ponderance of a question..... If most weather outlets (Wunderground, Intellicast, Weather Channel, AccuWeather) use the NOAA forecast, and never stray from it, WHY are there so many of this outlets?

Next, I sure am glad I don't live in South Dakota.

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Posted by   www
on December 5, 2005, 11:23 am
I think Accuweather does its own in-house forecasts. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about that.


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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 11:25 am
Thanks, I thought it was testing on the first Wed., not the first Monday. That would explain it. I just remember it used to be that if it was cloudy and rainy, they wouldn't do the tests. Oh well, at least it's not a faulty siren. Besides, the dog got over it. :-)

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Posted by Brian  
on December 5, 2005, 11:26 am
On this kind of day, I'd like to be in Jamaica or maybe Hawaii. But, we could always be worse off, like those folks that GOLDWINGDAVE referred to in South Dakota.

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Posted by  
on December 5, 2005, 11:34 am
I don't think I want to be in South Dakota either. Just a little sn** (shhhhhh!!! like John T. I don't want to scare it away) with no ice, no outages and no disruptions will be nice :-) I may be asking too much tho.....

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Posted by   www
on December 5, 2005, 11:41 am
Just checked a web cam in Fargo ND.
-8 even _looks_ cold!

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