A Trio Of Trouble

The Tuesday morning map discussion video is on the server:

http://beta.abc3340.com/weather/video.hrb

I encourage you to scroll down and read Dr. William Gray's comments... finally a voice of reason in a sea of "global warming" insanity.

And, beware... I am writing this on less than three hours sleep courtesy of a LONG Monday night football game last night on ABC 33/40. It didn't get home until after 1:00 a.m. You might want to use this with caution! But, then again, I rarely get enough sleep anyway....

Three storms, or potential storms, on the horizon. Lets take them one at a time.

STORM NUMBER ONE (lets name the storms this morning... who not... lets call storm number one AL): Al will bring a cold, soaking rain to Alabama tomorrow and Thursday. Yep, a nasty little ice event should unfold for the western Carolinas in the wedge, and there is no doubt the colder air could reach the Alabama/Georgia border, but even for Cherokee and Cleburne counties we don't expect any freezing rain problems.

Temperatures will be very tough to deal with tomorrow; the high in Cedar Bluff might be 39, while Tuscaloosa reaches 55. And, some pretty decent rain totals are likely; models are suggesting amounts between 1.00 and 1.50 inch here. There might even be enough instability over south Alabama for some thunder; the lifted index goes negative down there.

The rain will end early in the day Thursday as yet another coastal low rolls up the eastern seaboard of the U.S. Looks like we stay in the 40s all day Thursday with nice CAA going on (cold air advection).

STORM NUMBER TWO (how about BOB for this one): Bob will arrive this weekend and will bring some headaches for weather forecasters, and drivers over parts of the deep south. You can't ignore cold air seeping in here from the big Arctic high to the north, and critical thickness values over far north Alabama.

Looks like the best chance of snow from Bob will come along and north of U.S. 278 Saturday night and Sunday morning. This is north of a line from Hamilton to Cullman to Gadsden. For now, the I-20 corridor will probably deal with a cold rain.

But, longtime readers know the deal. Lets take the storms ONE AT A TIME. We need to get through Al before we really can forecast Bob with any accurate detail.

STORM NUMBER THREE (HMMM... lets use HOPE... need a female name in the mix, and this is what the snow lovers will have when it comes to the system): Hope doesn't even show up on the 06Z run of the GFS... but the European offers great promise for Hope sometime next week in the Tuesday-Wednesday time frame.

Actually the 06Z GFS does show a strong wave diving down the back side of the trough, but no phasing with the southern stream on the 06Z run. The 00Z run does show a significant winter storm threat for the deep south centered on Wednesday of next week.

We don't want to get hung up on run to run changes so early in the game. I still believe that Hope will indeed bring a wintry weather threat to much of the deep south. The key word is THREAT here. No forecast yet... just too early in the game.

I have some brilliant weather people together on a constant Instant Message (IM) conference... I will pick their brains this morning, take a nap, review the 12Z guidance, and have the next discussion and video here by 3:30 this afternoon....
Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 6:30 am
Good Morning all!!! Sorry about the long night, James. In looking at the models and the discussion over the past few days, there has been one constant...COLD. So, lets bundle up, put on our p.j.'s backwards, sleep with spoons under our pillows, flush ice cubes, and what not. Make it a great day!!!

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Posted by New Mike  
on December 13, 2005, 6:32 am
Good Night James... Think SNOW while your sleeping!! LOL!!

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 6:37 am
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAA!!! I hope it happens here. James go get some sleep, and remember, dancing sugarplums (ermmm bloggers) in your head LOL

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Posted by John T.  
on December 13, 2005, 6:43 am
James we appreciate the time you take for us on this site. Hope you get some deserving sleep. Again THANK YOU!

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 7:24 am
I'm wearing suspenders today. Maybe they are lucky!

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Posted by Margie Richardson - Rainbow City  
on December 13, 2005, 7:58 am
Good morning :) James that is a great article about you in the Anniston/Gadsden Christian Family Magazine. Keep up the GREAT work!! OK bloggers...time to dance! My firewood is ordered....bring on the SNOW!!

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 8:11 am
I was planning a trip down from Knoxville to Birmingham this weekend. Do you reall think there will be snow? I mean are we talking about a dusting, because I've got a 4wd but I'm not in the mood to try to get back on Sunday with snow or ice on the ground.

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Posted by New Mike  
on December 13, 2005, 8:19 am
Matt, as long as you bring snow with you, Come on!!

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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 13, 2005, 8:56 am
Ok , lets focus here... James has now molilized the Bloggers.... We are the IWIWAM bloggers and we are prepared at a moments notice. Now... If this thing happens this weekend , we have to be prepared to be at the Galleria at a moments notice.... dave is putting the chilli on ... Stephanie, get the Suspenders and Pumps ready..Now I dont have a pair of Pumps that will fit me... Dave may need some too..... By the way, dave ...It was good talking with you last night.... Goldwing, bring some Snowdancing Music.. Michael ... Do whatever it is you do... I know...Keep nagging Steph, and you will problably have to call her and wake her up...You have her # and she is your resp....... But Im sure she will be ready to go...... Chris, you already have your suspenders on ... do dont get them dirty.... Greg...are you going to be there...we need you out there telling us that it is really not snowing.... HAHAHAH ....hey , we have accepted you into our dancers club.... Im sure you are wild about that one.... James and the rest of the ABC3340 weather team... We will be ready to go.... Just throw it over to us whenever you need a break... We will be ready... We will try and not make you look too bad... HAHAHAHAHHA .... It would be great if you would come out and do your live shots from there with us.....No disrespect but I think we would all loose the spotlight when Miss Molly shows up... J.B. dont stand us up... Now we all enjoy all you guys have to say about the weather, but everyone knows, the main reason we come to this site is to get daily updates about miss molly...... Ok Bloggers.. we are on white allert.... so get ready....

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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 13, 2005, 9:06 am
Oh i almost forgot...John T.... we need you there to do the talking for all of us...we will all be too bust with the chilli and hot chocolate....

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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 13, 2005, 10:03 am
James, I see that you said you are going to have some brilliant minds together later this morning.... Isnt that what you have here in the Blog every day...

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 10:09 am
Rusty..shhhhh... James is sleeping.

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 10:52 am
Dave.. He needs to get up now....the 12Z run is out. We are all here waiting, wishing and hoping :).

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 11:20 am
Hey Rusty come on man I think the 12Z run is in so what does it look like now???? Hey Margie we need to let James sleep. Ok Rusty I am ready for the live shot I think Stephanie is real busy today getting ready for Christmas.

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 11:23 am
OK, we will let him sleep... RRRUSSSSTYYY!! Where R U!!

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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 13, 2005, 11:24 am
cking the 12 z run and willl see what we can expect...

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Posted by Jason  
on December 13, 2005, 11:38 am
12z just doesn't look like it is coming around. Ya'll need to stop dancin and try some reverse psycology.

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 11:49 am
Well that is what I thought would happen man. I think the best chance of seeing snow will be in January or March. It just does not happen in December that often so I will pause the dance for now. Getting real tired from all the danceing.

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 11:52 am
Its great exercise :) A little tiring, but worth it! So, keep on dancing! Everyone have a great day! :)

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 12:06 pm
Hey Rusty where are you???????

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 12:32 pm
Guys and Dolls - I am here and still dancing.... among all the peas and banana bits on my kitchen floor, Elijah has learned to eat by himself........

Detail cleaning in the kitchen may now take a little longer than anticipated LOL

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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 13, 2005, 12:35 pm
OK ... 12 z info.... Forst lets go to the ol QPF....
Now , as each day goes by , and each run , the rain totals have moved up a little.. Now we are looking at cutting into the deficit by some 1.5 to 2.0 inches.. We are forcast to get , depending on where you are, but anywhere from 1 to 2 inches locally.... How bout that bulls eye over south LA. 3.2 inches...

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p120i12.gif

Now lets move on from here.... Lets take a look at some of the models.... Lets look at the Possible snowfall for the next couple of days...Here is day 3:http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/day3_psnow_gt_04.gif

Now for the Wedge effect and the Possible Ice storm for NE GA. here are the freezing rain Probability Forecasts
Day 2: http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/day2_pice_gt_25.gif

Day 3:
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/day3_pice_gt_25.gif

Now here is a look at a site used by Josh that shows the GFS: Now I am using a new web site , becase it is easier for me to scroll thru the immages, so when you look at the map , you need to the drop down box and select the hour that is specified....

http://www.coolwx.com/ptype/

I believe that the models are starting to pick up on that high being so far north, and not getting a good wedge effect running down the backbone of the Apalachians, pulling that cold air down ..

Now lets move on to the 12z run of the GFS:


Lets go out there to 36 hrs and we see the rain moving in from the West:
http://ggweather.com/loops/gfs_12z_sfc.shtml

Now it cant be rulled out that there may be some form of wrap around moisture that could fall in the way of some light flurries as the storm wraps up , but unlikely , and if any, not anything to get worked up about... in about 60hrs.

http://ggweather.com/loops/gfs_12z_sfc.shtml

Now lets move on to this weekend

Look at the 120 hr map and you can see the moisture moving in and the 540 line all the way down into N. Alabama...
http://ggweather.com/loops/gfs_12z_sfc.shtml

Now look at the 850 mb map and you will see that the freezing line is a litttle farther south and this is at 5000 ft. so we are boarder line for a possible threat, but at face value, looking at the GFS, it would be a cold rain here in the bham metro area..... Now Lets go ahead and look out at Christmas....

Christmas eve at 264 hrs, and Christmas at 288 hours....

You may be wondering why i Didnt even mention the mid week possible strm next week, becase it just isnt there on the 12 gfs.... so I will let james go over the European Models...I can only speak English , so I am out to lunch when we look at those.....HAHAHAHA ....

Keep up the rituals , and we will get the snow in here "whether " the models like it or not....

Have fun and God bless..


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Posted by Greg  
on December 13, 2005, 1:00 pm
Hey, what do you know... The snow forcast is falling apart. BUMMER!!! Why cant you guys prove me wrong. PLEASSSSEE PROVE ME WRONG> I want it to snow! COME ON GUYS.

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 1:11 pm
******""We don't want to get hung up on run to run changes so early in the game. I still believe that Hope will indeed bring a wintry weather threat to much of the deep south. The key word is THREAT here. No forecast yet... just too early in the game.""********

gotta love it :-)
In the meantime, I will keep on dancing in the peas and bananas that still adorn my kitchen floor....... 'ciao!!



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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 1:12 pm
Hey Greg I am with you I know we are having fun here but you have to say we just don't get much snow here in December. But I will keep flushing ice down the tolit.

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 1:40 pm
I'm still saying < 1 percent chance of snow. Still haven't seen anything to convince me yet. But still hoping... I'm just more realistic than hopeful ;)

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Posted by Greg  
on December 13, 2005, 1:55 pm
There you go guys!! Hey, is any one else tired of hearing the "threat" phrase. How about leave it at cold rain. Then, as we get close, if the models change or agree with each other, then disclose that the models have shifted and that snow looks to be an outside possibility. I think this would help our stress level much more that mentioning "threats" that only pan out 1 out of every 20 times.
What does everyone think??

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 2:14 pm
Hi all, reformed lurker here from Marietta, GA. I always believe we will never get snow (pessimist) and then if we do I'm pleasantly surprised. The pattern setup seems somewhat favorable though and I'd hate to think this would be wasted on us. We will warm up at some point when the pattern changes (just don't know when and for how long).

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 9:16 pm
Greg, If I was to get threatened to get punched in the nose 20 times, It is still going to hurt the one time it happens...

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 2:14 pm
I like talking about snow, really... even if it does turn out to be for nothing. Alabamians can be dreamers, too!

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Posted by Jason  
on December 13, 2005, 2:50 pm
Nothing more that an outside chance of flurries has been forecasted this year so to say we have had several busts doesn't really make any sense.

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 4:17 pm
I like talking about it too chris --- I think it is fun to do so whether or not it snows. It doesnt stress me out one bit :-)

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Posted by  
on December 13, 2005, 9:17 pm
I just like flushing the ice down the toilet....

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