Al, Bob, and Hope

The Wednesday afternoon map discussion video is on the server:

http://beta.abc3340.com/weather/video.hrb

Three storm systems ahead... number one, Al, is getting his act together right now. We have a 1005 mb surface low near Galveston, with a large mass of rain and storms ahead of it. There is a risk of severe storms for the entire Gulf coast, all the way from Galveston to Apalachicola. The warm sector of the system is surging inland, and all of you along and south of I-10 will have to watch for severe weather tonight.

Around here, a cold, soaking rain is ahead tonight. One to two inches of rain with temperatures holding rock steady in the 40s. The 12Z NAM extraction shows 1.79" for Birmingham. Not a bad little rain event.

The WEDGE is alive and well as expected. Right now Fort Payne has 41 and Atlanta reports 39 (that is down from 40 degrees in Atlanta last hour). This thing looks pretty ugly in the wedge, with freezing rain and ice accumulation from the northeast tip of Georgia up into Pennsylvania.

The rain should end tomorrow morning from west to east, and we might even drop a few degrees during the day as CAA kicks in (cold air advection). Friday should be cool and dry.

BOB: The 12Z run of the GFS is a tad warmer in its thermal fields. Really I don't see anything to make us change the forecast. A cold rain for most of Alabama late Saturday afternoon and Saturday night, with a wintry mix possible on the northern edge of the precipitation shield over the northern quarter of Alabama, mostly north of U.S. 278. In that region, the precipitation should be light, and temperatures should generally be above freezing, so no travel problems are really expected.

Many people are hitting the road this weekend as the Christmas holiday gets close. I really don't think "Bob" will be a major trouble maker for travel... the precipitation should mostly stay south of Tennessee, where the cold air will be deeper. Maybe a little light snow over East Tennessee Saturday night. Most of Georgia should see only a cold rain from this, and any wintry precipitation north of Atlanta should be light, much like Alabama.

But, you know my routine... lets get Al out of the way and we can be really specific with Bob tomorrow. But for now, we just don't expect any serious issues over the weekend.

HOPE: Now the fun begins. Cold air deepens next week, and the next short wave rolls in from the west at mid-week on Tuesday or Wednesday. Hope continues to show up nicely on all models, but the moisture, placement of surface features, and upper air support are all changing from run to run, as you expect with a system a week out. The 12Z run of the GFS seems too far south and east with the surface low. The 12Z European is much more supportive of a significant storm here.

Based on my sitting in a weather office staring at this stuff for 27 years, and the current teleconnections setup, I still think the idea of a significant winter storm has great merit. Now understand, from the beginning and today I am not saying it will snow in Alabama. I am saying there is a risk of a significant winter storm for parts of the deep south, or the southeast U.S. Best shot at a pre-Christmas snow event for the southern states in a number of years. I just don't know who has the best shot... nobody does at this stage of the game. Maybe Alabama, maybe not. But we have a shot.

BE SURE and scroll down and read Jason's post called "Climate vs Weather", and my post from last night called "Consensus and Accuracy". Both really go hand in hand, and explain why our forecasts sometimes don't match what you might read on other web sites or see on other TV stations.

I will have the next map discussion video and long post here by 7:00 a.m. tomorrow... notes this evening and tonight as AL unfolds!
Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 3:31 pm
Hopefully Al will help me get a good nights sleep tonight. Still haven't seen a drop here in Oxford. Nice and windy, though.

Let's make a huge red bullseye in Central Alabama and "HOPE" Mother Nature can take a hint.

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 3:36 pm
windy here in Alabaster too....... my son and his buddy shot all of his arrows up in the trees the other day (AGAIN) kinda dangerous to go out in my front yard LOL

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 3:42 pm
Ok, everybody stay out of Stephanie's front yard. I love all the talk about snow. That would be cool. Everybody sing..."Walking in a winter wonderland".

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Posted by Anna  
on December 14, 2005, 3:52 pm
I always have HOPE!! Without it, life isn't much fun!! Stephanie, I hope your mailman doesn't deliver door to door..LOL!! :)

Anna

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Posted by Anna  
on December 14, 2005, 3:54 pm
BTW...been light rain at my house since before lunch today!!



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Posted by Jason  
on December 14, 2005, 3:55 pm
Does anybody here read the weather notebook that gives special weather events that happened on this date? Here is the link http://beta.abc3340.com/weather/wxnotebook.hrb

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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 14, 2005, 4:04 pm
stephanie, I am afraid to ask why your son and Husband are shooting arrows up into the air...Dave doesnt want any buisness from your house any time soon....... HAHAH.... I dont want to go backwards here , but i made some posts earlier.... concerning the 12 z run of the gfs.... Greg, and New mike were posting frames from the 12z run, the thing is , you have to be careful ...many of the websites that post these, as well as the information posted on the

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/

website, can be misleading.... You have to make sure that the data you are looking at has the correct date... These models, update and change from one day to the next , so you can look at the 12 z run and the 200mb Wind, and the 500mb Vort may be updated, but not the MSLP 1000 - 500mb chart...... the chart, even if it is in a loop, if it doesnt have todays date and 12utc in the lower left corner, then you are not looking at a current graphic...Maybe James will respond to this .... I would like a correct answer myself... But I belive that is it....


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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 4:10 pm
Yeah... I'll just keep looking here at what James (and others) throws at me. I don't know what I'm looking at unless it's explained to me, even if I've seen it a hundred times.

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Posted by Josh  
on December 14, 2005, 4:15 pm
The time of the models are:
00 UTC = 6pm << The date here changes to the next days date. (because the models use UTC time)
06 UTC = 12am (midnight)
12 UCT = 6am
18 UTC = 12pm (noon)


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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 4:15 pm
You arent kidding about my front yard. The stinkers did it again a couple of days before Katrina roared thru. They all came out of the trees then. I don't know why they did that again, got into a lot of trouble the first time!!!!!

Still keeping that "HOPE" alive, sleeping with spoons under the pillows and backwards pj's for the snow fairy.... all out of ice tho, wonder if Bob has any to spare ;-P

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 4:20 pm
Hey Stephanie let me know when it is safe to come over again. I don't want to come and get my head stuck HAHAHAHAHA.

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Posted by New Mike  
on December 14, 2005, 4:35 pm
Ok folks... I have learned my lesson on posting links and attempting to "read" the models... Guess that's why I'm not a met!! LOL!!

^^^^^ fades back into the shadows^^^^^

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Posted by Margie Richardson - Rainbow City  
on December 14, 2005, 4:39 pm
Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 5:21 pm
whoaa Margie - thats for this weekend???? AWESOME!!!!! Thanks for sharing!!

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Posted by Anna  
on December 14, 2005, 4:52 pm
Hey Mike, at least you TRIED...I can't even do that!! :)



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Posted by Josh  
on December 14, 2005, 4:57 pm
Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 6:50 pm
Model outputs always look good a week out. Thats why the forecasters will get your HOPES up. I bet if you look at new years week it will have some kind of winter weather. Basically we alabamains get our HOPES up over TRENDS and thats it.

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Posted by New Mike  
on December 14, 2005, 4:57 pm
Thanks Anna!

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Posted by rusty Pitts  
on December 14, 2005, 5:03 pm
NO new mike..... Keep it up...I did the same thing and kept noticing that some of the models that sI was posting were different than what James was Using on his afternoon Mad discussion, so I figured it out myself..... Hey , just keep it going...I belive Josh is the resident expert... Perry just isnt around enough.....

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 5:23 pm
Speaking of Perry... Where is he?? His posts are a really good read!!

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 7:07 pm
Sorry, but my grandmother is in the hospital; had to rush her there by ambulance Monday evening.....after she began bleeding severely (some type of problem with her large intestine; she's 92 yrs of age and diabetic). I won't be able to post much until she gets better. Please keep her in your prayers.....she's a precious little lady; the lady who raised me after mom died in 1977.

Thanks,
Perry

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 7:17 pm
What is your grandmothers name and I will put her on our prayer list at church.

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 7:39 pm
Thanks Margie....I really appreciate it! Her name is Lizzie Williams.



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Posted by Brent  
on December 14, 2005, 5:35 pm
Well there went the chance of snow... CPC is rarely ever right. LOL It usually does the complete opposite.



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Posted by   www
on December 14, 2005, 6:29 pm
The NWS is now putting a chance of snow in the forecast for Saturday night and Tuesday nights....

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Posted by  
on December 14, 2005, 6:41 pm
'Night all - sleep good, 'bout to watch "Elf" with my oldest. Don't forget your spoons and backwards pj's!!!

** Michael, there were 11 arrows. Only one has come down. **

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Posted by Greg  
on December 14, 2005, 7:00 pm
Ill believe it when I see it. If you ask me, to call for snow, somewhere in the southeast, is not really going out on a limb. I think I could even say someone in the southest US will get some snow in 7 days. Heck, Im sure you will cover yourself by it snowing in the Smokies or the Black Mountains of NC. Not really going out on a limb by that statement James.

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