Looking Ahead To Bob And Hope

The Thursday afternoon map discussion video is on the server:

http://beta.abc3340.com/weather/video.hrb

Scroll down the the latest on AL, the massive snow and ice storm impacting much of the eastern U.S. J.B. as always has done a great job keeping tabs on the system. And, see those rain totals for Alabama. A very good soaking as advertised.

By the way, I named the trio of storms that faced Alabama back on Tuesday morning when I was working with little sleep. AL, BOB, and HOPE.

BOB: I don't see much reason to change our weekend outlook. Bob will bring mostly a cold rain to the state, but there is a chance of wintry mix on the northern edge of the big precipitation shield. Best chance of ice pellets or snow flakes north of U.S. 278, but temperatures should be hovering a tad above freezing which should prevent serious travel problems.

We will have to watch for unexpected issues from evaporative cooling and dynamic cooling, but for now we just don't think Bob will bring any big problems to the state.

For those of you traveling this weekend, Bob won't be a big, bad ice storm like Al. There could be a few flurries over Tennessee, but again travel problems look unlikely with most of the precipitation remaining over Alabama and Georgia. And, instead of rolling up the Atlantic seaboard, for now it looks like Bob will move out to sea and not really impact the major eastern U.S. cities.

Of course, all of this could change as we get closer to the weekend, so stay tuned...

HOPE: Again, this continues to be the most interesting system ahead. The latest run of the GFS shows a strong short wave trough moving through the midwest, with a second short wave hanging back over the southwest U.S. This run does not phase the two waves. The idea of a winter storm threat for parts of the deep south is based on a phased storm system...

So, for the moment we discount the 12Z GFS and still expect phasing next week with the potential for a mid-week storm with rain and possibly winter precipitation across the deep south. CPC continues to also think along these lines for next week on their afternoon update today.

If by chance the GFS is correct, the lead wave over the midwest might bring some flurries to north Alabama Monday night, and then the second wave brings rain toward the end of the week as warmer air returns. Again, we discount this solution for now based on the pattern.

LONG RANGE: If we do have a phased system next week, there will be a shot of cold air Wednesday through Friday, followed by moderating temperatures by Christmas day.

The next map discussion video will be on the server by 7:00 a.m. tomorrow!
Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 3:23 pm
Well Now I wonder what the chances are for this to change?) Now Rusty keep up with the GFS let us know what it will do:)

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 3:27 pm
YAY, cold air!!!

BOO, moderating!!

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Posted by Matt Grantham  
on December 15, 2005, 3:29 pm
James, I'm sure you'll flip out when you see the 12z run of the ECMWF. :-)

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Posted by No Hope  
on December 15, 2005, 3:47 pm
I sure hope all that talk of a winter snow storm in the deep South wasn't hopelessly premature. But, if it was, maybe there's something we can learn from it . . .

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 4:06 pm
Hey Matt What do mean by that?)

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 4:14 pm
Hey Matt G....

Will you explain?? Thanks :)

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Posted by Jessica  
on December 15, 2005, 4:20 pm
Stephanie, if you go to www.talkweather.com and look on the Southeast weather forum you will see what he is talking about. :)

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 5:06 pm
Thanks Jessica!! :)

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Posted by jules  
on December 15, 2005, 4:28 pm
I don't understand why folks get so upset when the weather doesn't pan out, especially when the weather guys are doing PREDICTIONS for over a week away. I mean if they were saying tomorrow we would get a major winter storm and it didn't materialize that's one thing. But these guys are doing a PREDICTION of what MIGHT happen based on MODELS. It's fun to predict and try to see what really happens.

Also, what if their PREDICTIONS are right? Then lots of people were warned and are possibly safer for it?

What if they are wrong? Then folks have maybe some extra bread and lots of salt in the garage.

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Posted by Margie Richardson  
on December 15, 2005, 4:34 pm
STILL HATE THE GFS !) ;) Well, looks like the moisture is back but not the cold... Can't wait to see the 00 run. Still wishing and hoping for snow ;)

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Posted by Anna  
on December 15, 2005, 4:31 pm
Nicely said Jules...some act like it's all written in stone, with no room for error...or FUN!!!

Anna

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 4:44 pm
Anna, Margie, and Jules ----

WELL SAID!!

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 4:45 pm
Well I know one thing I don't get upset if the snow does not come!)Now I know James and rest of the weather crew are doing a great job:):):):):)

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Posted by Carson  
on December 15, 2005, 4:47 pm
The concern, Anna, is that the possibility of snow is being "***ed up" to attract more viewers.

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 4:47 pm
Hey Stephanie I agree 100%!)!)!)

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 4:49 pm
Hey Carson wher do get that from?)I don't see it myself!)!)!)

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Posted by jason  
on December 15, 2005, 4:59 pm
Carson do you really think that? I don't have that concern at all.

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 5:04 pm
I am not concerned either, I would rather be safe than sorry for any weather matter. I go to Fox 6 and NBC 13 's websites daily. They do not mention "trends" like James does. Everything they do is 'generic' and bland. I like knowing what MAY happen ahead of time. I know that trends change constantly, that is what makes weather so fascinating for me. I also like knowing our 33/40 weather team on a personal level thru this blog - and if that helps with their ratings and gets them more viewers, then I think that is just awesome!!!

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Posted by Brent  
on December 15, 2005, 5:37 pm
LOL... "***ed up" ABC 33/40 doesn't need to do that for ratings... they are already #1.

Let's remember that some of the long-range stuff James posts here on the blog and talks about on the video update NEVER makes it on TV.

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Posted by Margie Richardson - Rainbow City  
on December 15, 2005, 5:48 pm
We're one big happy family here :) (except when a new run of the GFS is out) !) (((((hugs)))))

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Posted by Brandon  
on December 15, 2005, 6:17 pm
GFS is rather disheartening, but oh well still hoping in T-Town!!

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 6:18 pm
They don't get paid by how many of us look at the blog. This is just for us geeks... sorry if anyone was offended by that. Once again, if ya don't like it, go somewhere else. You're one mouse click away from being happier.

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Posted by John T.  
on December 15, 2005, 6:25 pm
Hey Jules some people just get a kick out of being let say, donkeys, in you know what I mean. They just think it makes them look good or big being this. Its crazy they like to express theirselves like this when they shold be thankful for what is given to us (like this blog) for FREE. Its funny that no one is made to watch or read anything, but they act like someone is twisting their arm to do so. And also, they are looking for an argument in a way. And they usually get one. I myself, again, am just thankful to have this 3340 weather team. MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Posted by Susan  
on December 15, 2005, 6:58 pm
J.B., I don't know this for sure, and I'm not an English teacher, but I seem to remember this from somewhere. It's not an absolute rule, but a guideline generally followed.
It depends on the last letter of the first word. If it is a consonant, the words are joined together. If it is a vowel, they are kept separated. Maybe because pronunciation is less obvious in that circumstance? I don't know.
Anyway, I think that's why we have snowstorm, thunderstorm, and ice storm.
First letter of last word may also matter.


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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 10:22 pm
Susan...
That is good information...good to know. I appreciate the information!

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Posted by Anna  
on December 15, 2005, 6:58 pm
Well, Carson, I don't even get to watch the weather as I am a very busy mother of two. I just read here to see what is going on. I am thirty years old and I have lived in Alabama all my life and know not to count on much when it comes to ANY KIND of weather here in Alabama. We all have our opinions...and that is why it's a free country. I don't take anything written here to heart nor do I make plans that have to do with the "right" kind of weather...we just live life!!

:)



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Posted by Josh  
on December 15, 2005, 7:09 pm
The 18z GFS Precip type shows some type of winter mix for central Mississippi Tuesday morning:
http://wwwt.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mmbpll/etapll8day.conus/east.av
n.ptype138.gif

And some mix Tuesday afternoon for Alabama:
http://wwwt.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mmbpll/etapll8day.conus/east.av
n.ptype144.gif


But the DGEX shows nothing for Tues afternoon:
http://wwwt.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mmbpll/etapll8day.conus/east.et
a.ptype144.gif



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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 9:37 pm
well , the 18z run has done a complete flip flop... I mean it has mut some of the moisture back in , but has taken all that cold air up north ... Man the gfs is wore than a Woman.always changing its mind... ..Oh no did I say that ... HAHAHA just kidding,,, well I am now finsihed with my class, and dont go back till the 3rd of Jan.. Whew,... Made a 93 in my history mini term.. 3 more credit hours added to the ol bank... Now time to have some fun with the weather, but we are going to have to done something about the smiley faces... wow...

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 10:21 pm
Hey Rusty glad you had a good grade:):):)Now let's have some on the weather!)!)

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Posted by  
on December 15, 2005, 10:23 pm
Sorry;);)I meant to say let's have some fun on the weather.

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Posted by Josh  
on December 16, 2005, 12:11 am
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on December 16, 2005, 12:37 am
josh, what makes noaa think that when the gfs cant make a decent cup of coffee?Jb why do you all use the gfs so much whe it is wrong so much of the time?I have read this blog since it started but seldom post but it seems the nam and the european (sp) are much better at forecasting.just curious.I will pay attention to ABC33/40 before those other yahoos.

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