Hope Hangs Around

The Tuesday afternoon map discussion video is on the server:

http://beta.abc3340.com/weather/video.hrb

COLD AGAIN: At 3:00 Birmingham reported 42, and Cullman only 37. GFS MOS way too warm again. Forget the 50s and 30s. Some north Alabama communities today will go in the book with highs in the 30s and lows in the teens.

HOPE HANGS AROUND: Check out the Shreveport radar... Hope (I named this storm about a week ago in a sleepless state) is producing cold rain as far west as the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex this afternoon.. and as far east as the Mississippi River. Shreveport reported 39 degrees with light rain at 3:00.

Clouds from Hope are slow to move into Alabama; clouds really thicken west of I-55 in Mississippi. I still think we see some clouds tonight, but the chance of any snow flakes reaching the ground is so small it really isn't worth mentioning in the forecast. Birmingham's dewpoint this hour is 12 degrees. Talk about dry air!

Another very cold night is ahead. If the clouds are thin, or don't move in here, many spots will reach the upper teens. If clouds do arrive, that should keep us in the 20 to 25 degree range early tomorrow.

We should warm into the 50s on Thursday and Friday.

CHRISTMAS WEEKEND STORM: This one is producing lots of buzz on the meteorological streets. The 12Z GFS comes in with a different look; the main low moves from near Jackson to Nashville. This would mean a smaller chance of snow flurries on Christmas day, and a greater chance of thunderstorms on the front side of the storm Saturday night into early Christmas morning. If this were March, I would be concerned about severe storms.

But, this is December and the air will be relatively cool and stable. I still think we might hear some thunder Saturday night.. and not from Santa's sleigh on the roof.

Since the 12Z GFS is a bit of an outlier, I won't depart much from the morning forecast and bring in colder air on Sunday with a chance of light rain or snow flurries on the back side of the system. If the 12Z GFS happens to be correct, any flurries would wait until Sunday night or even Monday morning.

Remember, the lower 2,000 feet of the atmosphere will be relatively "warm", so the chance of accumulating snow looks small at this point. The thickness values are low due to the cold air aloft associated with the strong upper trough.

But remember, cold core upper low, weatherman's woe. This thing will probably offer a surprise or two.

NEXT WEEK: Little confidence in details of the various short waves moving through the upper flow. Temperatures still look below normal, but nothing extremely cold for the last week of the year. See the video for the latest NAO outlook.

Was a little late in getting in from the Montclair Christmas party this afternoon... so this post is a few minutes late.... Had a great time with the gang over there.....
Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 3:47 pm
Hey, is it winter yet?

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 3:49 pm
James, if you were to put your little hat on that you wear during outdoor broadcast and do a little snow jig for us....we might just get some snow... PPPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEE !) Love your snow fans :)

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 3:58 pm
Hey Margie I am with you come on James put your hat on and dance for us.:D:D:D

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 4:15 pm
thanks for coming to the party james. Sorry we kept you late. lots of folks wanted to shake his hand ya'll, so Mr. Spann is apreciated.
And sorry guys, lots of folks here do the "no snow dance" We always make the best of it in hospitals when we are snowed in though. Lots of great stories about how everyone gets in to work. the patients and families are more patient (No pun, really) and the staff really pulls together. I enjoy looking at the snow, nothing like hot chocolate and a fire to make it seem cozy. Now if we can just get a fireplace put in the lobby, we would all be OK with it! ;-)

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 4:27 pm
No, really... is it officially winter yet?

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 4:29 pm
Tomorrow is Winter :D

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 4:35 pm
OOPS!!! Today at 12:45 p.m.

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Posted by Josh  
on December 20, 2005, 5:59 pm
CPC has just changed their outlook and removed the old threat:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/threats/p_threa
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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 6:26 pm
Laura
My Mother in Law feels the same way you all at BMC do - she works for Children's and when there is a threat, they all have to follow their "snow plan"......... she only wants snow when it happens on her days off :)

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 6:42 pm
yep, a foot of the stuff on my off day is just fine!!

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Posted by   www
on December 20, 2005, 7:00 pm
Thunder on Christmas Eve....
bummer.

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 7:05 pm
Maybe Thundersnow!!!

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Posted by   www
on December 20, 2005, 7:08 pm
thunder snow....hmmmmmm...
that'll work!!

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 7:17 pm
I don't have anysnow flurries, but I do have ice crystals with a temp of 30.6°

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 7:26 pm
thundersnow....LOL :)

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Posted by   www
on December 20, 2005, 7:36 pm
Stephanie....I still say y'all need a big pengin to get this thing right and bring on the snow.

Seems to me the last time I remember thunder snow was during the BIG ice storm back in 80's. Maybe since then, but but not sure.

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 7:49 pm
Ahhhh we need a penquin for sure :D I will try anything to get this snow show on the road to Alabama!!
Never have seen thundersnow - saw the green lightning during the 93 blizzard though -

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 8:30 pm
Still say Spann man needs to do a jig for us.....snow jig :)

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 9:36 pm
Hey I know I am late tonight but Stephanie that green lightning you saw in the 93 storm was power lines going down. Because I saw it to:D:D

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Posted by  
on December 20, 2005, 10:09 pm
No it was green lightning because everytime we saw the green lightning it would thunder about 10 seconds later.

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Posted by John T.  
on December 20, 2005, 9:55 pm
I have noticed that during all our 'good' or 'great' snow storms is that the day or days before it has almost always been mild or even warm. As usual most people will say the weatherpeople are out of their minds it won't snow & if it does it won't stick. And what happens just about every time. My mom told me a story I guess it was in the 1970s, they had gone to Gadsden to watch a ball game, she said that day it was in the 60s or 70s most of the day and they woke up with about I think 3 inches or so. Kind of weird how that works. GOD does have a great since of humor.

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Posted by Tammy  
on December 20, 2005, 10:31 pm
so in a 1 in 10 chance of getting any severe weather with this system whats the chances? i dont care if we do or dont get snow as long as there is no bad storms around here...i remember back in 2000 dec. 16th when the tornado came through here it snowed that night

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Posted by Brent  
on December 21, 2005, 1:11 am
Severe threat looks limited... we're coming off this really cold air and I'm just not sure we can recover that much. It needs to be monitored though. I'd be much more concerned if we weren't going to be around 20 in a few hours. Think some thunder is defintely possible though.

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Posted by  
on December 21, 2005, 6:23 am
definately green lighting, i was fool enough to go for a walk around the block in it :)

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